All Recordings from The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer
Nov 20, 2022 |
Forgive and Remember
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Forgive and Remember
Are we capable of forgetting the things that have harmed us? Honestly, if we're being real? No. So then we actually just go, well, forgiveness is this thing I'd like to be able to do, but it's not going to happen. And then Jesus, instead of being a person, we're meant to follow down the way of love. Jesus just becomes some religious superhero that can do things we couldn't possibly imagine, like forgive people. Except that we are meant to forgive people. Even when forgetting is not part of the picture, we are meant to forgive. What then is forgiveness if it's not about forgetting?
The reason I'm harping on this for us is it damages our relationship with God if we think that God needs to forget everything we've done in order to forgive us. Think about that for a moment. God can only love me if God forgets all of the things I've done wrong. Or God loves me so much that God just forgets all of the ways I've harmed God and my neighbor and my world.
If we think like that, then that's how we will live in our relationship to forgiveness with others. I don't know how to forgive them because I can't forget it completely. They will never be able to love me fully unless they can forget the terrible, stupid things I've done to them.
What an impossible place we've placed ourselves.
The reason I'm harping on this for us is it damages our relationship with God if we think that God needs to forget everything we've done in order to forgive us. Think about that for a moment. God can only love me if God forgets all of the things I've done wrong. Or God loves me so much that God just forgets all of the ways I've harmed God and my neighbor and my world.
If we think like that, then that's how we will live in our relationship to forgiveness with others. I don't know how to forgive them because I can't forget it completely. They will never be able to love me fully unless they can forget the terrible, stupid things I've done to them.
What an impossible place we've placed ourselves.
Nov 20, 2022 |
Sunday, November 20, 2022 Baptism + Rite II Holy Eucharist
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Sunday, November 20, 2022 Baptism + Rite II Holy Eucharist
Join us for worship this Sunday, November 20, Holy Eucharist, Rite II + Baptism with music. on The Feast of All Saints, with The Rev. Joyce Keeshin, Celebrant and The Rev. Philip DeVaul, Preacher.
Michael Delfin on the organ and the Church of the Redeemer choir.
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
Michael Delfin on the organ and the Church of the Redeemer choir.
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
Nov 18, 2022 |
Rector's Blog, Why I Believe in Jesus for Now
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Rector's Blog, Why I Believe in Jesus for Now
I want to begin with the easiest, most obvious, truth about my belief in Jesus – and it’s also the one that is the easiest to dismiss. I was raised Christian. My parents were Christians who baptized me as an infant and raised me in a church community. I don’t remember a time in my life when God wasn’t part of the equation. And I don’t remember a time when I took seriously the possibility of being another religion.
I think it’s better to be honest about that. I know saying it out loud opens me up to the observation that if I’d been raised Muslim I’d be a Muslim, if I’d been raised Sikh I’d be Sikh, if I’d been raised Jewish I’d be Jewish, and so on. And that is very likely. It would be really impressive if I could say I studied every single religion in depth and then chose Christianity, but that is not what happened. I did not choose Christianity. I did not find Jesus. Christianity chose me. Jesus found me. This is indefensible, and I believe it. Jesus found me.
This, by the way, is called indoctrination. I would like to write more about indoctrination in the future – I think it is misunderstood and gets a bad rap. But for now I’ll just say, I don’t believe it’s possible not to indoctrinate our children. The question is into what shall we indoctrinate them? I am choosing love. Specifically, I am choosing the magnificent, faithful, gracious, sacrificial love of God that I see present in Jesus.
If I was ever going to be anything other than Christian, I would have been an atheist. For much of my life I have been tempted by atheism. Because many times God seems so implausible. But instead of ever really being an atheist, I keep believing in Jesus...
Nov 17, 2022 |
Thursday, November 17 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
| The Rev. Joyce Keeshin![The Rev. Joyce Keeshin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/joyce-keeshin_250_small.jpg)
Thursday, November 17 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
Join us this morning, Thursday, November 17, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Joyce Keeshin.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 16, 2022 |
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
| The Rev. Gary Lubin![The Rev. Gary Lubin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/dsc08258-edit-edit_242_small.jpg)
Wednesday, November 16, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
Join us today, Wednesday, November 16, for a Devotion for Early Evening, led by the Rev. Gary Lubin with special music.
This worship service is available here and through our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or simply ask your smart speaker to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship."
Nov 15, 2022 |
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Rite II Holy Eucharist
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Rite II Holy Eucharist
Join us this morning, Tuesday, November 15, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Joyce Keeshin.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 13, 2022 |
The Greatest Story
| The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane![The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/melanie-slane_755_small.jpg)
The Greatest Story
How are you happy all the time? I'm not. How do you never
have any doubts? I have plenty to spare. What makes you think that being a
Christian is worth your time? I don't always know that it is. But in spite the
truth of these answers, I still believe that love is always there in the midst
of catastrophe and that God asked me to help people find it.
Sometimes I have wanted to quit. Sometimes the bad stuff seems insurmountable. The chaos too consuming the alure of materialism too great. The comfort of idleness, so appealing.
But to this day, I have never in my life seen something more beautiful than a woman of wealth, getting down on her hands and knees to scrape gunk and leaves and mud out of the gutters of her poor neighbor's home. I have never seen something more majestic than a man spending all day preparing a vegan meal for grieving guests whose faith implores them not to kill for meat.
Never have I seen love like that of a spouse who wipes the spit out of the crease of their beloved's lips then when they can no longer do that for themselves. And never ever have I known anything greater than the story of someone willing to give up their life to save others from believing that there's anything greater than love.
I have the weirdest job. It's the most beautiful job though because I get to tell people the story of a man who lived in this world just like us, in this same world that we live in, and to choose to love it rather than just survive it.
Sometimes I have wanted to quit. Sometimes the bad stuff seems insurmountable. The chaos too consuming the alure of materialism too great. The comfort of idleness, so appealing.
But to this day, I have never in my life seen something more beautiful than a woman of wealth, getting down on her hands and knees to scrape gunk and leaves and mud out of the gutters of her poor neighbor's home. I have never seen something more majestic than a man spending all day preparing a vegan meal for grieving guests whose faith implores them not to kill for meat.
Never have I seen love like that of a spouse who wipes the spit out of the crease of their beloved's lips then when they can no longer do that for themselves. And never ever have I known anything greater than the story of someone willing to give up their life to save others from believing that there's anything greater than love.
I have the weirdest job. It's the most beautiful job though because I get to tell people the story of a man who lived in this world just like us, in this same world that we live in, and to choose to love it rather than just survive it.
Nov 13, 2022 |
Sunday, November 13, 2022 Rite II Holy Eucharist
| The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane![The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/melanie-slane_755_small.jpg)
Sunday, November 13, 2022 Rite II Holy Eucharist
Join us for worship this Sunday, November 13 Holy Eucharist, Rite II with music, the Rev. Philip DeVaul; Celebrant, and the Rev. Melanie Slane, Preacher.
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
Nov 11, 2022 |
Rector's Blog, God and Terrible Things
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Rector's Blog, God and Terrible Things
Let me say the hardest thing first, so that you can check out early if you want to: I don’t believe God is weak or powerless. And that means I believe God allows terrible things to happen. And I believe that I will never fully understand this reality. That may seem like a copout to you, and if so, that’s fair enough. But let me say this: I find it odd that we think that we should be able to understand God, God’s decisions, and God’s actions fully in order to believe in God. I don’t understand my wife and I sure believe in her. I don’t even understand myself most of the time, but I believe in me too.
We say we’re made in God’s image, and I’ve come to believe our unfailing inscrutability is one of the things that makes us like God. To say God is mysterious may sound trite, but I still believe it. Because I believe life and love are endlessly mysterious, and God is Love, and God made life. We want God to be the answer of so many things, but so often God is the question.
The second thing I want to say is that I believe God plays the long game. This may actually be my least favorite thing about God. But it’s also one of those areas where both Scripture and my personal experience are so consistent, that I have no choice but to believe it. I am writing this in the aftermath of another Election Day – a day that seemed to have enough disappointment in it for everyone. And I notice the yearning that bubbles up within myself each Election Day. Every time, regardless of previous experience, I feel myself wanting the outcome to be clear and definitive. I want justice in one fell swoop. I don’t just want my team to win – I want it to be 100%, as if we could all wake up one day on the same page. I don’t want to hear that line about the arc of the moral universe anymore. I’m tired of it. I want things to be made right – right now.
Nov 10, 2022 |
Thursday, November 10, 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
| The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane![The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/melanie-slane_755_small.jpg)
Thursday, November 10, 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
Join us this morning, Thursday, November 10, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Melanie Slane.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 09, 2022 |
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
| The Rev. Gary Lubin![The Rev. Gary Lubin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/dsc08258-edit-edit_242_small.jpg)
Wednesday, November 9, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
Join us today, Wednesday, November 9, for a Devotion for Early Evening, led by the Rev. Gary Lubin with special music.
This worship service is available here and through our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or simply ask your smart speaker to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship."
Nov 07, 2022 |
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 Morning Prayer
| The Rev. Joyce Keeshin![The Rev. Joyce Keeshin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/joyce-keeshin_250_small.jpg)
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 Morning Prayer
Join us this morning, Tuesday, November 8, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Joyce Keeshin.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 06, 2022 |
Saints Right Now
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Saints Right Now
That's the most interesting thing to so many people about
children, the promise of what will be. I hear people who think they're well
intentioned say, oh, the children are the future of the church. No, they're the
present of the church. They're not the future. They're here right now. They're
not our future. They're the present. But we have this tendency to look at
everything as what could be, or might be, or will be, when right here and now these
people are blessing us. The people that we love who have died that we now call
Saints. Did they walk around on Earth acting like what we would consider Saints
acting like then?
Be honest, we love them in their death. When they were alive, were they perfect? That's not how sainthood works. It's not about perfection. It's about responding to the love that God has placed within you and sharing that love with the world around you, however imperfectly you can. However imperfect you are, we recognize our sainthood.
Every single one of us. We proclaim it. Not as saying we're all good, but as saying, we are all, every single one of us loved. Snd we are set apart in this world to share and spread that love to help it grow, to participate with God in the reconciliation of this world.
What would it look like if we saw these ones around us as not as what they will be, but what as they are right now, how they bless us currently?
Read Transcript Here
Be honest, we love them in their death. When they were alive, were they perfect? That's not how sainthood works. It's not about perfection. It's about responding to the love that God has placed within you and sharing that love with the world around you, however imperfectly you can. However imperfect you are, we recognize our sainthood.
Every single one of us. We proclaim it. Not as saying we're all good, but as saying, we are all, every single one of us loved. Snd we are set apart in this world to share and spread that love to help it grow, to participate with God in the reconciliation of this world.
What would it look like if we saw these ones around us as not as what they will be, but what as they are right now, how they bless us currently?
Read Transcript Here
Nov 06, 2022 |
Sunday, November 6, 2022 Baptism + Rite II Holy Eucharist
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Sunday, November 6, 2022 Baptism + Rite II Holy Eucharist
Join us for worship this Sunday, November 6, Holy Eucharist, Rite II + Baptism with music. on The Feast of All Saints, with The Rev. Joyce Keeshin, Celebrant and The Rev. Philip DeVaul, Preacher.
Michael Delfin on the organ and the Church of the Redeemer choir.
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
Michael Delfin on the organ and the Church of the Redeemer choir.
This worship service is also available live at 9:00 am on Sunday, and as a video following that at https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/online-worship/
Nov 04, 2022 |
Rector's Blog Throwback Episode, When Jesus Votes
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Rector's Blog Throwback Episode, When Jesus Votes
As part of our When Love Shows Up Throwback Series we are re-posting this blog post which was originally posted on October 7, 2020
Maybe you tend towards a liberal or progressive worldview. Maybe you have more of a conservative understanding of things. How is Jesus influencing you? How are you allowing yourself to be influenced and shaped by the one to whom you’re tied for all eternity? I don't mean to suggest that a real Christian can’t be either conservative or liberal: we can. I also don’t mean to suggest a false equivalency, saying, “It doesn’t matter how you vote, so long as you go to church!” There are real issues before our country right now: How we get through this pandemic, how we address inequity, how we work for racial justice, just to name three that are already on your mind.
We are called the Body of Christ. This means that when we vote Jesus isn’t just in the booth with us looking over our shoulder: When we vote, we are representing Jesus in this world. If that makes you uncomfortable, good. Me too. We want to recognize this responsibility. We want to recognize our Christian identity fully in our words and in our deeds – and in our votes.
Maybe you tend towards a liberal or progressive worldview. Maybe you have more of a conservative understanding of things. How is Jesus influencing you? How are you allowing yourself to be influenced and shaped by the one to whom you’re tied for all eternity? I don't mean to suggest that a real Christian can’t be either conservative or liberal: we can. I also don’t mean to suggest a false equivalency, saying, “It doesn’t matter how you vote, so long as you go to church!” There are real issues before our country right now: How we get through this pandemic, how we address inequity, how we work for racial justice, just to name three that are already on your mind.
We are called the Body of Christ. This means that when we vote Jesus isn’t just in the booth with us looking over our shoulder: When we vote, we are representing Jesus in this world. If that makes you uncomfortable, good. Me too. We want to recognize this responsibility. We want to recognize our Christian identity fully in our words and in our deeds – and in our votes.
Nov 03, 2022 |
Thursday, November 3, 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
| The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane![The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/melanie-slane_755_small.jpg)
Thursday, November 3, 2022 Morning Prayer, Rite II
Join us this morning, Thursday, November 3, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Melanie Slane.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 02, 2022 |
Wednesday, November 2, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
| The Rev. Gary Lubin![The Rev. Gary Lubin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/dsc08258-edit-edit_242_small.jpg)
Wednesday, November 2, 2022 A Devotion for Early Evening
Join us today, Wednesday, November 2, for a Devotion for Early Evening, led by the Rev. Gary Lubin with special music.
This worship service is available here and through our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or simply ask your smart speaker to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship."
Nov 01, 2022 |
Tuesday, November 1, 2022 The Feast of All Saints Holy Eucharist
| The Rev. Philip DeVaul![The Rev. Philip DeVaul](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/philip-devaul_215_small.jpg)
Tuesday, November 1, 2022 The Feast of All Saints Holy Eucharist
Join us this evening, Tuesday, November 1, for The Feast of All Saints led by the Rev. Philip DeVaul
Today's service bulletin is available here
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Today's service bulletin is available here
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Nov 01, 2022 |
Tuesday, November 1, 2022 Morning Prayer
| The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane![The Rev. Melanie W. J. Slane](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/melanie-slane_755_small.jpg)
Tuesday, November 1, 2022 Morning Prayer
Join us this morning, Tuesday, November 1, for online Morning Prayer led by the Rev. Melanie Slane.
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
To assist you in following along you may use your Book of Common Prayer (BCP) beginning on page 80. If you do not have a BCP at home, use the buttons below to use the online version or download a pdf version.
Our worship services are all available here and in our Online Worship podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify or ask Alexa, Google, or Siri to play the podcast “The Episcopal Church of the Redeemer Online Worship
Oct 30, 2022 |
Through the Eyes of Jesus' Love
| The Rev. Joyce Keeshin![The Rev. Joyce Keeshin](https://www.redeemer-cincy.org/uploads/images/joyce-keeshin_250_small.jpg)
Through the Eyes of Jesus' Love
Our narrow views limit us, imprison us. When we allow ourselves
open to God's view, we can see each other's humanity. We can respond in love
and open to the possibility of God's healing grace, for all. Undoubtedly, many
of us have strong feelings about what's going on in our world today.
At this time nearing elections, political rhetoric is fierce. Words that are calling out hatred, that are calling for violence, that are disrespecting and wanting to take away the freedoms of people are said loudly. And this is not to condone any of those words. It's not to condone them. They are not respectful of human dignities, individual rights.
Those expressions of hatred and cause to violence clearly run counter to Jesus's teaching to a baptismal covenant. But it is to say that the views we hold may also be very limited views of fellow human beings. Labeling individuals and groups, treating them as outcasts, are also directly counter to Jesus's teaching....
These very folks who we want to label sinners may very much be the lost Jesus seeks to save.
At this time nearing elections, political rhetoric is fierce. Words that are calling out hatred, that are calling for violence, that are disrespecting and wanting to take away the freedoms of people are said loudly. And this is not to condone any of those words. It's not to condone them. They are not respectful of human dignities, individual rights.
Those expressions of hatred and cause to violence clearly run counter to Jesus's teaching to a baptismal covenant. But it is to say that the views we hold may also be very limited views of fellow human beings. Labeling individuals and groups, treating them as outcasts, are also directly counter to Jesus's teaching....
These very folks who we want to label sinners may very much be the lost Jesus seeks to save.